Joe Devon & Ben Ogilvie: A Conversation with AI Experts

Steven Scott and Shaun Preece sit down with Joe Devon (co-founder of Global Accessibility Awareness Day) and Ben Ogilvie from ArcTouch for a raw, candid, and deeply thought-provoking conversation about the rapid evolution of artificial intelligence—and what it means for our future.

Together, they unpack bold claims from Anthropic’s CEO suggesting that AI could be responsible for 100% of all code within 12 months, potentially replacing developers, creatives, and workers across industries. Joe and Ben bring real-world insights from the frontlines of accessible AI development, revealing how fast things are changing, what’s already happening with agentic models, and how AI is transforming everything from app creation to healthcare.

But it’s not all doom and gloom. They explore how AI is opening up massive opportunities for accessibility, especially in areas like mobile app design, code review, and even automated audio description for media. Ben reveals insights from a brand-new accessibility report analyzing top mobile apps across industries, and Joe explains how benchmarks for accessible AI coding are being developed—with a mission to open-source the tools that will shape a more inclusive future.

From AI’s unsettling pace to its powerful potential, this episode offers a compelling mix of caution, optimism, and call-to-action for the accessibility and tech communities.